If you accept, we will send you some forms for review and signature. You will then be assigned to a FSO and House Manager. They will contact you to discuss your arrival plans and answer any further questions.
*It is our goal to first determine all options that could lower your Camp ATP costs. Each airline offers different funding options.
No, you will not be camping in the desert!
Our Camp is a Luxury Home
We supply work clothes while you are here.
Depending upon your off duty activities you should pack appropriately. There will be closets to keep your hanging clothes, shoes, etc.
When you fly, you will need an emergency overnight pack. In case you are required to stay overnight for repairs. We supply with each aircraft sleeping bags if you should emergency land in the desert. A safety kit, emergency telephone, flares, etc.
Let me ask this...Let's compare an OTR over-the-road 80,000 lb trailer truck driver with a pilot's days work. I will use DOT rules for the truck driver. The driver starts at 4AM on his trip. He must take a 30 minute break within 4 hours. (All drivers are electronically monitored). He can then drive another 4 hours then he must take a one hour break. He can then drive another 3 hours before he/she must take a 10 hour break. His total on duty time must not exceed 14 hours. Assume it is now 6PM. His 14 hours is up and he must find a place to park. Not so easy these days if you have noticed the overflow at truck stops and rest areas. He will awake at 4AM and start driving again. The driver has no autopilot. He drives in heavy traffic where idiots do not understand the repercussions of tailgating him/her or how pulling out in front of him could lead to a very crimped experience. I am not suggesting that flying is easy or not tiring. But, in reality it is a cake walk and there are drivers who have driven with perfect records for millions of miles. Give me a break about fatigue for a pilot who is on duty a total of 6.7 hours per 24 hour day broken up into 2 hour flights.
FAR 91.109 and FAR 61.51 allow both pilots to log PIC and SIC time while flying for Time Building provided that the PIC is operating in VFR conditions and using an Instrument Hood.
Camp ATP is a concentrated flying experience similar to active duty as an airline pilot would experience. We want our pilots to be ready for the airlines. Our goal is to replicate the daily experience of being a professional pilot. This includes obeying all procedures most airlines implement to prevent accidents. Signing checklists, defining duties of each pilot and co-pilot and documenting and deviations or issues that may have been experienced during the flight. All flight plans are filed with the FAA.
You will not have time to waste and living on fast food for weeks is not good for your health. Each aircraft will have 6 pilots assigned to it as a crew. Each crew will live in one of our 3 bedroom apartments. If you have special needs, no problem. We want you to enjoy your stay and good food is prepared daily.
Las Vegas typically has 292 days of sunny skies. It does occasionally rain or the winds get too high to fly, so any days you are grounded, we cover your lodging costs.
It does get windy some days. As pilot in command you have the ability to cancel or delay any flight for any reason. If winds exceed the maximum cross wind component, you lodging will be extended to compensate at no cost.
For pilots that do not have LSA time or who are not current will need an insurance check ride. Who pays is between you and your airline. All pilots who do not have LSA time will be required to fly 2-5 hours with a local CFI. We do not supply a CFI. We have a list of airport approved CFIs and you or your airline can contract with them directly. Your time building hours will be used if you rent our aircraft for your check ride.
Every six crew members are assigned an apartment for lodging. Each apartment has a House Master who maintains the home and cooks the food for the crew. This is most similar to a Bed & Breakfast concept. If you need special meals, we will accomodate.
If you are not familiar with "Crash Pads" you will just as soon as you are assigned a base of operations.
Flight attendants and Pilots share an apartment at their home base if they do not have a residence there.
As the term suggests is used for crashing after long days flying.
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A story published in AOPA Magazine
"A new hire at a cargo carrier related stories of his recent training. Having previous experience as a captain at a regional ownership company. While he acknowledged there were more difficulties finding quality candidates these days, he says his company has adapted. "There definitely isn't a crisis," he said. Simulator evaluations are now required to help filter out those who may look good on paper but later prove to be subpar pilots. As expensive as simulator training is, it's key to weed out the problem pilots before that phase of training, if possible.
Our source said companies also have to be savvy in sourcing pilots, which requires keeping tabs on the goings-on in the entire aviation industry. Airlines that fail or furlough pilots are always good sources. He also explained that rotary-wing pilots have been good, from the mid-1990s to mid-2000s, he knew what to expect and did well in training for his heavy Boeing. Others? Not so much. "My sim partner failed and dropped out. He was a longtime Army rotary and fixed-wing pilot and had great difficulties interacting with a PC and iPad;' he said. VNAV, the flight management computer (FMC), autopilot, and Jeppesen charts were all ganging up on the student. "He struggled through the oral, which ended up lasting 4.5 hours." He failed the procedures check by missing callouts and checklist responses. After remedial training, he was passed on to flight training device training where troubles continued but again, was allowed to progress to simulator training. Following more problems with FMC and automation use, the pilot was given several more simulator sessions but, ultimately, could not overcome the hurdles and resigned." — AOPA February 2020,
PETER A. BEDELL is a pilot for a major airline and co-owner of a Cessna 172and Beechcraft Baron.
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